So, I was quite surprised, as most people were, by the scene in the great sept. “………this happens like this in the books?!?!?!?!?!”
So I got out my book, and found the page.
"She kissed him. A light kiss, the merest brush of her lips on his, but he could feel her tremble as he slid his arms around her. "I am not whole without you."
There was no tenderness in the kiss he returned to her, only hunger. Her mouth opened for his tongue. “No,” she said weakly, when his lips moved down her neck, “not here. The septons…”
"The others can take the septons." He kissed her again, kissed her silent, kissed her until she moaned. The he knocked the candles aside and lifted her up on to the mother’s alter, pushing up her skirts and the silken shift beneath. She pounded on his chest with feeble fists, murmuring about the risk, the danger, about their father, about the septons, about the wrath of the gods. He never heard her. He undid his breeches and climbed up and pushed her bare white legs apart."
……….Now, the book continues after that, and it becomes more apparent that Cersei enjoys it, and therefore overall in the book the reader gets the sense that it’s not rape.
However the TV scene ends basically where I end the quote. And from reading just the bit I quoted, I would say that that’s rape. And even though (still in the books), Cersei relents in the end, Jaime still forces himself upon her whilst she is literally saying the words “No.”
I mean, I was a really shocked by the degree of which Cersei fought back in the episode. It seems a lot more than the book implies.
However, I think the most important thing is that the scene in the book is written from Jaime’s perspective. So all the time where (in the TV series) Cersei is saying “stop it, stop it, stop, stop, it’s not right, it’s not right”, crying whilst she says it, we are to assume (following the what the book says) that Jaime “never heard her”. Maybe if the book was written from Cersei’s perspective, it would have seemed far more forced and barbaric than from his.
Nono I was defo shocked by the degree of which Cersei fought back in the episode. It seems a lot more than the book implies. But then again, Jaime would never be thinking about how strongly she was resisting, he was in a weird testosterone-filled sex mood.
If you narrated a real rape from the rapists point of view, would that have the same level of barbarity as a rape from the victim’s point of view?
George R R Martin is an Executive Producer to the series………. just saying. I feel people are probably making more of a deal of this perspective change than they should be.